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that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking hands with the prime minister of israel and sealing this peace treaty between these countries, this president of egypt, the handshake was in march of 1979. two and a half years later, he was assassinated. how did he come to be assassinated? it came from this guy. this guy right now is in prison in the united states in a federal prison complex in north carolina thanks to his role in the first bombing of the world trade center back in the '90s. after he called for the assassination, who made the peace deal with
that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking...
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as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak, very much aligned with u.s. and israeli interests. he was willing to turn a blind eye to israeli aggressions as they described it in gaza so long as he could secure the support of the u.s. and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily
as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak,...
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the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was nodding and winking at the israelis and encouraged them to go in and basically finish hamas. obviously, we have a very different egyptian government this time. israel also has the experience of having gone into gaza, knows it's easier to get into gaza than it is to get out. by the same token, there's a reality. israel is not going to accept a situation where a major part of its population has to be living in shelters. one of the reasons israel is acting right now is they're basically sending the message to hamas that if you are not going to re-establish calm, and in a way where we don't have to face the prospe
the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was...
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last week's egypt prime minister visited with them and promised egypt's support and promised their actions would not go unnoticed. palestinian leaders have upped their demands in negotiations calling for the end of israel's five-year blockade on gaza and also calling for a pledge by israel not to fire on the territory again and an international deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to bring out a permanent truce. >> the united states of america has got to push as hard as we can to resolve this israeli/palestinian issue. so many events hinge on making that process go forward. find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker, but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east. >>> any moment now president obama is set t
last week's egypt prime minister visited with them and promised egypt's support and promised their actions would not go unnoticed. palestinian leaders have upped their demands in negotiations calling for the end of israel's five-year blockade on gaza and also calling for a pledge by israel not to fire on the territory again and an international deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to...
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of course, he also spoke with egypt's president morsi, reiterated similar ideas, emphasized the importance of a long-term, more durable solution. he thanked morsi for the role he played in brokering this cease-fire. i'm told by senior administration officials that the president's relationship with mohamed morsi really got stronger throughout this process. so, they're encouraged by that. they are also saying secretary clinton really played a key role in these negotiations, so they are cautiously optimistic. >> two thoughts on that. i mean, obviously, secretary clinton's role, it was, you know, a high-risk decision to send her there. she's managed to come away with a deal. obviously, she and the president deserve a tremendous amount of credit. also this idea of strengthening the relationship with morsi because what i've heard from administration officials is they're concerned they haven't had the leverage with morsi they may have had with the previous head of egypt. are you picking that up as well? >> reporter: absolutely. and i think that was the concern sort of entering this process of try
of course, he also spoke with egypt's president morsi, reiterated similar ideas, emphasized the importance of a long-term, more durable solution. he thanked morsi for the role he played in brokering this cease-fire. i'm told by senior administration officials that the president's relationship with mohamed morsi really got stronger throughout this process. so, they're encouraged by that. they are also saying secretary clinton really played a key role in these negotiations, so they are cautiously...
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egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic is that when they are higher grade, longer range rockets being smuggled in in the last couple years, you don't have an egyptian partner like mubarak who is going to try to shut down those tunnels. israel has some real concerns and hamas has access to much better weaponry. >> it does. that also gets back to part of the purpose of what the israelis are doing. a, the israelis going after targets designed to destroy this capability that hamas has. so when you talk about collateral damage, it's because a lot of the rockets are put in highly populated areas.
egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic...
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this is not the old dictator of egypt. this is the new guy. and just one more thing, if you're not too busy while you're considering these matters, while the united states is negotiating how many american troops are going to stay on in afghanistan after the end of our longest war ever, while we're negotiating what's going to happen in that country after 2014 while we're in the middle of those negotiation, the united states senate voted today by a big margin, 62-33, that we would please like to leave afghanistan sooner than the end of 2014. faster. which you will now need to work out with the president of the united states and the pentagon and the afghans and all the nato allies sprinting for the exits there. that's what's on your plate. that's today. do you want this job of sorting this all out? again, that's today's agenda. that's a thursday in american diplomacy. do you want the job of making all those things right? i do not know you, but i know enough about you to guess that you do not want the job of making all of those things right. >> we
this is not the old dictator of egypt. this is the new guy. and just one more thing, if you're not too busy while you're considering these matters, while the united states is negotiating how many american troops are going to stay on in afghanistan after the end of our longest war ever, while we're negotiating what's going to happen in that country after 2014 while we're in the middle of those negotiation, the united states senate voted today by a big margin, 62-33, that we would please like to...
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egypt making smuggling of these systems in to gaza more easy. then of course i will you have a little bit of the -- the building of an ingij nous missile capability in gaza since sit israel retreated in 2007. the iron dome is a major project of cooperation between israel and the united states. it undercuts one of the major arguments in the campaign that there was a lack of attention to israel's defense needs when in fact there is a great manifestation of significant security cooperation and obviously what we are seeing is it with was not a perfect system. but it has been an effective system in mitigating this missile threat to the israeli population. >> a couple of things here, though. can't qatar supplying a lot of weaponry to hamas right now? if so, how does that play in to the way we have a relationship with qatar? it is considered one of our allies? >> i think qatar is more involved in political support and financial support to hamas. iran has been a primary arms exporter throughout the region and has been building its relationship with hama
egypt making smuggling of these systems in to gaza more easy. then of course i will you have a little bit of the -- the building of an ingij nous missile capability in gaza since sit israel retreated in 2007. the iron dome is a major project of cooperation between israel and the united states. it undercuts one of the major arguments in the campaign that there was a lack of attention to israel's defense needs when in fact there is a great manifestation of significant security cooperation and...
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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with israel would threaten egypt's economic aid from all across the world. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that egypt receives $2 billion in annual aid from the united states and is also seeking a $4.8 billion loan from the international monetary fund. we need to take a little break from the heavy stuff here. water cooler time. watching vice president joe biden show off his comedic timing, at least the intentional kind appearing in a cameo on "parks and recreation" here on nbc. the show's main character leslie plays by amy poehler gets a surprise engagement gift, the opportunity to meet her number one crush. >> how did you do this? >> called in a few favors. >> excuse me here. >> a few hundred favors, mr. vice president. ben wyatt from congressman murray's office. >> dave told me you would be coming by. welcome. >> you're -- my name just came out of your mouth. >> well, yeah, it did. >> well, this isn't happening. this isn't real. >> no, it's happening. and i'm delighted to have you here. on behalf of the president and myself -- >> oh, mr
with israel would threaten egypt's economic aid from all across the world. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that egypt receives $2 billion in annual aid from the united states and is also seeking a $4.8 billion loan from the international monetary fund. we need to take a little break from the heavy stuff here. water cooler time. watching vice president joe biden show off his comedic timing, at least the intentional kind appearing in a cameo on "parks and recreation"...
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all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the most important thing for secretary clinton is to make sure that the commitments that are being made are quite clear. there's no misunderstandings, and it's very important to reinforce those commitments so that the ceasefire that takes hold doesn't turn out just to be a lull before the resumption of fighting. i think that's the most important thing. secondly, i think it's very important that the secretary will not only be seeing prime minister netanyahu and president morsi but also she is going to see president abbas in ramallah. he's been the ac
all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the...
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egypt was in fear that egypt would end the peace treaty. that is one reason why israel feels it's calibrating carefully the attack on gaza.poised on th of gaz yachlt they're trying this pinpointed air attacks and also attacks from the sea. they resumed the policy of targeted assassinations against hamas leaders. they want very much to end the threat from gaza. but they also do not want a ground invasion partly because of the cost and also because they don't want to alienate egypt. so this is a very dachg us ange moment for this region. >> we know that they have great familiarity with attacks on two fronts. lebanon in the past and attacks from the south. again now with the new conflict that appears to be growing between israel and the golan heights and its border in syria. is there any concern that there may be new issues on the northern front as well? >> well, there is great concern. it doesn't seem too likely at the moment. as a matter of fact, by the way, a few minutes ago, maybe within the last hour, an israeli soldier there was a report
egypt was in fear that egypt would end the peace treaty. that is one reason why israel feels it's calibrating carefully the attack on gaza.poised on th of gaz yachlt they're trying this pinpointed air attacks and also attacks from the sea. they resumed the policy of targeted assassinations against hamas leaders. they want very much to end the threat from gaza. but they also do not want a ground invasion partly because of the cost and also because they don't want to alienate egypt. so this is a...
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there is no authority in egypt now. he can override any decision that has been made by morsi and that will be made by morsi. in a way, he is trying to create an imperial rpresidency, an imperial presidency that basically anoints morsi as the supreme lead over egypt, period. he monstrously miscalculated. he has thrown egypt into a political and constitutional crisis. he has finally succeeded in unifying the fractured opposition. now not just the liberals and the nationalists and the leftists. millions of egyptians are outraged in morsi addressing his own office of absolute authority. >> that's the question i have though. this has sparked massive protests as we can see. he is now -- you know, he's standing his ground but he also seems to be giving a little ground. is there cause in your view, maybe from our viewpoint, western standpoint, to take a step back and let this play out a little bit before cle clairing egypt's great democracy is over. is there a chance that by the owned the day there will be a resolution and coul
there is no authority in egypt now. he can override any decision that has been made by morsi and that will be made by morsi. in a way, he is trying to create an imperial rpresidency, an imperial presidency that basically anoints morsi as the supreme lead over egypt, period. he monstrously miscalculated. he has thrown egypt into a political and constitutional crisis. he has finally succeeded in unifying the fractured opposition. now not just the liberals and the nationalists and the leftists....
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egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks in this country suspected that he would. >> yeah. and you can bet that the white house is watching that especially closely. i mean the last few days as we just said the president spoke repeatedly with president morsi. it seemed like they were having the start of a good relationship that led to a cease-fire in gaza. that is a good thing from the point of view of the united states. and then the timing of this new announcement is certainly interesting and perhaps questionable because after developing that relationship after getting some international kudos for what he did, he made this move.
egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks...
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but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. jim maceda will join us coming up in 20 minutes right here. >>> turning from egypt now to the border between israel and gaza where a two-day cease fire is already being tested. israeli troops shot and killed a 20-year-old man on the gaza side of the line today. the firs
but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting...
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it's a re-creation of the imperial egypt, or the pharaohnic egypt if you want to use a cliche. egypt wants to play that role and has been trying to play that role unsuccessfully with respect to syria and trying to recapture in diplomacy what the revolution did recapture in the arab popular imagination. so this is a place where u.s. interests, morsi and israeli interests, because you have some of the israeli right who say great, let's make gaza egypt's problem forever. so there's a funny way that everybody's power dynamic goes the same way here. >> of course, the big dissenter are the people in the streets of tahrir square. >> this goes back to your putin question and what i thought of, the point is morsi is putin, he's not stalin. so this isn't mubarak. we're not going to back to mubarak, but we're not proceeding to british style constitutional style democracy and american policy will have to juggle both things. >> number one, i thought it was inevitable and saturday before last, i predicted that egypt would play this role, because everybody would need egypt to play this role a
it's a re-creation of the imperial egypt, or the pharaohnic egypt if you want to use a cliche. egypt wants to play that role and has been trying to play that role unsuccessfully with respect to syria and trying to recapture in diplomacy what the revolution did recapture in the arab popular imagination. so this is a place where u.s. interests, morsi and israeli interests, because you have some of the israeli right who say great, let's make gaza egypt's problem forever. so there's a funny way...
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domestic stability inside egypt is paramount for egypt to play the role that it can play in the region. when we saw in the past week egypt rise to the forefront of mediating between israel and the palestinian factions, it was because egypt at that particular point was not -- president morrissey's hand to put leverage on them. it's a political organization from which mohammed morsi comes from. stability will have long term and regional implications for all of the issues. but in terms of immediate truce, right now it is about what's happening on the ground be in gaza and right now that is not necessarily directly linked. >> all right, everyone. we were listening there to nbc's ayman and we're taking satellite hits. this conflict is raising a question concerning security in the middle east. the role iran played with arming hamas and its own stand offwith israel. joining me is dennis ross of the washington institute for institutional policy. dennis, welcome. let's talk about the role that iran played in this conflict over the last eight, nine days. iron that out for me. >> i think we have
domestic stability inside egypt is paramount for egypt to play the role that it can play in the region. when we saw in the past week egypt rise to the forefront of mediating between israel and the palestinian factions, it was because egypt at that particular point was not -- president morrissey's hand to put leverage on them. it's a political organization from which mohammed morsi comes from. stability will have long term and regional implications for all of the issues. but in terms of...
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to egypt and something that senator graham made clear over the weekend is to remind egypt everyone is watching their steps. >> egypt, watch what you do and how you do it. you're teetering with the congress on having your aid cut off if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> so is this a big test for morsi to prove not only that they are a partner to the united states, but an ally moving forward? >> well, they have been a treaty ally since '79. there's roughly $2 billion in aid given to egypt every year. $2 billion isn't quite what it used to be. so if this is the one piece of leverage that we have over egypt, that's not going to work. what we -- >> even in an economy that's totally failing and upside down for egypt, it's -- $2 billion is not an incentive to want to play nice? >> i don't think that it is the only factor that will get mohamed morsi to be an honest broker in the region. i think it's much -- it would be a much better bet to appeal to his sense of wanting to be a statesman. wanting to be a responsible actor, wanting to be -- to live up to
to egypt and something that senator graham made clear over the weekend is to remind egypt everyone is watching their steps. >> egypt, watch what you do and how you do it. you're teetering with the congress on having your aid cut off if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> so is this a big test for morsi to prove not only that they are a partner to the united states, but an ally moving forward? >> well, they have been a treaty ally since '79....
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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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each one negotiated with egypt. >> egypt played the central role. it calls to mind the role that the mubarak regime played in this and we are coming out of this week in which the combination of that and morsi declaring himself these broad powers looks like the relationship between the american-mubarak relationship. >> it's a recreation of the imper cal egypt. be it noted that i am the one who went there. but, the u.s. needs egypt to play that role and egypt wants to play that role, has been trying to play it with respect to syria trying to recapture what they did in the arab popular imagination. this is a place where u.s. interests, morsi's interests and ironically israeli interests because, in fact, you have some on the right that say great, let's make gaza egypt's problem forever. there's a funny way the power dynamic goes the same way. >> to create a stable relationship. the decenters are the population of egypt which toppled the government that was playing that exact same role. >> it goes back to your putin question and what i thought of when i
each one negotiated with egypt. >> egypt played the central role. it calls to mind the role that the mubarak regime played in this and we are coming out of this week in which the combination of that and morsi declaring himself these broad powers looks like the relationship between the american-mubarak relationship. >> it's a recreation of the imper cal egypt. be it noted that i am the one who went there. but, the u.s. needs egypt to play that role and egypt wants to play that role,...
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at the end of the day it will always come back to egypt for the simple fact egypt has leverage over political islamic movements like hamas and israel. it has a relationship with israel. it can sit on the table with both of the parties. turkey over the past several years since the incident where they tried to send aid to gaza and had their citizens killed has had strained relations. it false back in the lap of the egyptians. this is an important test. egypt seen itself as the center of the arab world for centuries. they take the palestinian cause at heart. they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo. that's been true for hundreds if not thousands of years. a
at the end of the day it will always come back to egypt for the simple fact egypt has leverage over political islamic movements like hamas and israel. it has a relationship with israel. it can sit on the table with both of the parties. turkey over the past several years since the incident where they tried to send aid to gaza and had their citizens killed has had strained relations. it false back in the lap of the egyptians. this is an important test. egypt seen itself as the center of the arab...
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what about the role of egypt here? isn't this a big test for a relatively new government brokering something? this is not a government that, you know, was a party to camp david or other accords, although they said they would uphold them. isn't this a stronger test? what does this tell us about the role they can play in this difficult conflict? >> well, i think as she said, egypt's willingness to assume responsibility to this is vitally important. now that said, obviously egypt will come to these, you know, next phase of negotiations with far more sympathy for the people of gaza than perhaps if that was a conversation that happened two years ago or three years ago with the government of hosni mubarak. i think part of this challenge will be how much can the united states push israel, which has a legitimate interest in the issue of weapons smuggling to gaza, but how can it find a way to achieve this right balance so that you can increase assistance to the people of gaza while meeting israel's legitimate security needs. th
what about the role of egypt here? isn't this a big test for a relatively new government brokering something? this is not a government that, you know, was a party to camp david or other accords, although they said they would uphold them. isn't this a stronger test? what does this tell us about the role they can play in this difficult conflict? >> well, i think as she said, egypt's willingness to assume responsibility to this is vitally important. now that said, obviously egypt will come...
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bringing the end to a crisis, a high stakes situation for egypt and the u.n. in fighting is the most intense the middle east has seen. jim frederick is joining us. as i mentioned, the latest development. the president, while he is in asia, making these important phone calls. obviously, wanting the same goal that everyone does at this point. >> yeah. i think the interesting thing so far is how removed the united states has been from the situation, from the negotiations going on in egypt and so people are starting to ask, is this a problem that the united states has to come in and solve? obama has hands-off. he's traveling throughout asia. the united states' voice here has been largely silent. i think part of that is purposeful, and i think part of that is leading from behind some of the strategies the united states has tried to pioneer over the past couple of years, and also i think it's a realization that the united states might not have as much leverage in the region or countries around the region it had a couple of years before the arab spring. >> isn't ther
bringing the end to a crisis, a high stakes situation for egypt and the u.n. in fighting is the most intense the middle east has seen. jim frederick is joining us. as i mentioned, the latest development. the president, while he is in asia, making these important phone calls. obviously, wanting the same goal that everyone does at this point. >> yeah. i think the interesting thing so far is how removed the united states has been from the situation, from the negotiations going on in egypt...
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what he's finding is in fact the new egypt is an egypt where people feel that their voices matter and that there's not going to be a new ruler. there's going to need to be a president who governs and he who governs is going to have to govern recognizing and respecting checks and balances. >> certainly democracy is a very slow process and certainly for a country that's never had it before. we'll be watching the this for a generation or more to come. but you mentioned the fact that morsi fell emboldened after brokering the deal between gaza and israel. as we speak of middle east peace, president mahmoud abbas met in new york with the deputy secretary of state william burns ahead of tomorrow's historic u.n. general assembly vote on palestinian statehood. the resolution, though, would upgrade the palestinian authority's u.n. status from observer to a nonmember observer state. it is expected to be approved. israel strongly opposes the bid. the person representing the u.s. will be ambassador susan rice who currently is facing a lot of heat over the statements she made about the benghazi att
what he's finding is in fact the new egypt is an egypt where people feel that their voices matter and that there's not going to be a new ruler. there's going to need to be a president who governs and he who governs is going to have to govern recognizing and respecting checks and balances. >> certainly democracy is a very slow process and certainly for a country that's never had it before. we'll be watching the this for a generation or more to come. but you mentioned the fact that morsi...
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. >>> breaking news from egypt. thousands of protesters gathered in tahrir square. 6:15 at night there, many have been chanting step down in reaction to the decree issue by egypt's new president that grants him absolute power. the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir square has been growing, building over the past hours. explain what we're seeing now. >> reporter: well, behind me, probably tens of thousands of egyptians have gathered, been here since the early hours of the morning. in fact, some have been camped out for the past six days. many songs, chants, slogans reminiscent of two years ago, calling on the same things they did two years ago, which is for the president of egypt to step down. they've changed the name, obviously, to reflect egypt's new islamist president. you mentioned that incident
. >>> breaking news from egypt. thousands of protesters gathered in tahrir square. 6:15 at night there, many have been chanting step down in reaction to the decree issue by egypt's new president that grants him absolute power. the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir...
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some for its part are calling on egypt to sever ties with israel. that would be a major setback for the united states because the israeli/egyptian peace treaty has been a cornerstone of u.s. policy in the middle east. >> ayman, we'll be checking in with you all day, i imagine. thanks very much. >>> moving back to the domestic side of politics, senate republicans have elected their leaders for the 113th congress. and, boy, do the faces look familiar because they are. out of the six top leaders, five leaders, and the chair of the senate campaign committee, there's just one new face. john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to
some for its part are calling on egypt to sever ties with israel. that would be a major setback for the united states because the israeli/egyptian peace treaty has been a cornerstone of u.s. policy in the middle east. >> ayman, we'll be checking in with you all day, i imagine. thanks very much. >>> moving back to the domestic side of politics, senate republicans have elected their leaders for the 113th congress. and, boy, do the faces look familiar because they are. out of the...
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good to see you. >> you too. >> egypt. now, perhaps morsi felt empowered by his role as a peacemaker on gaza, but he ran right into long-standing traditions. >> he did. he did. i think bear in mind a couple of things. number one, he felt that the role he played made him a central figure in the region as a whole. in mubarak's last few years, the fact was mubarak was increasingly on the sidelines, not playing a major role in the middle east. here's president morsi thinking he can play on the image they are a leader in the region and he can use that as a device to make a move internally. he made that move but i think it's a clear miscalculation because he took on the independents of the judiciary. it doesn't matter that. these were leaders who were holdovers from the mubarak regime, they still represented a symbol of independence. suddenly he was trying to remove all checks on his own power. >> so you're suggesting he's going to have to find a face-saving way to step back from this brink? >> i do think that there's a -- the b
good to see you. >> you too. >> egypt. now, perhaps morsi felt empowered by his role as a peacemaker on gaza, but he ran right into long-standing traditions. >> he did. he did. i think bear in mind a couple of things. number one, he felt that the role he played made him a central figure in the region as a whole. in mubarak's last few years, the fact was mubarak was increasingly on the sidelines, not playing a major role in the middle east. here's president morsi thinking he...
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the bigger problem is that this occupation is not egypt's fault. it is israel's fault. and it's unreasonable to expect egypt or turkey or any other country to put pressure on palestinians. what should be done instead is quite the opposite. the united states is the largest funder of israel. the united states gives $3 billion a year in u.s. taxpayer money to israel in addition to weapons, in addition to political support. if we're going to be serious about moving forward, the role has to come from the united states, pressure from the united states. it's not enough to demand that it come from egypt. >> diana buttu, many thanks for your time. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> back in the u.s., get ou of the way because black friday is here. people spend long hours in line to score major deals this morning. >> it's affordable right now even if you have to be out here for two days to get it. >> it saves a lot of money like a few hundred dollars. >> cnbc's courtney reagan is in dayton, ohio. how is it going so far out there? >> reporter: you know, so far it looks pretty go
the bigger problem is that this occupation is not egypt's fault. it is israel's fault. and it's unreasonable to expect egypt or turkey or any other country to put pressure on palestinians. what should be done instead is quite the opposite. the united states is the largest funder of israel. the united states gives $3 billion a year in u.s. taxpayer money to israel in addition to weapons, in addition to political support. if we're going to be serious about moving forward, the role has to come...
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secretary of state hillary clinton, and egypt's foreign minister at a press conference in egypt. >> in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners across the region to consolidate this progress, improve conditions for the people of gaza, provide security for the people of israel. ultimately, every step must move us toward a comprehensive peace, for all the people of the region. >> the leader of hamas held his own press conference in cairo today, during which he said that while his side agrees to the cease-fire, his fighters have, quote, their hands on the trigger. in jerusalem, the israeli prime minister, benjamin net ya yan hew, also spoke about the cease-fire agreement. look at this. "prime minister benjamin netanyahu this evening spoke with u.s. president barack obama and acceded to his recommendation to give the egyptian cease-fire proposal a chance." he acceded to what president obama wanted. in other words, this is the american's idea, not mine, but i'm going to go along with it, because they're advising me i ought. it's very specific language, highlighting how cent
secretary of state hillary clinton, and egypt's foreign minister at a press conference in egypt. >> in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners across the region to consolidate this progress, improve conditions for the people of gaza, provide security for the people of israel. ultimately, every step must move us toward a comprehensive peace, for all the people of the region. >> the leader of hamas held his own press conference in cairo today, during which he said...
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we have morsi with just basically still the new head of egypt. the muslim brotherhood does not like or respect israel at all. how do these other pieces, these leaders, new leader and leader facing election soon, factor into the whole situation? >> mercy is in a particularly vulnerable situation here. when mubarak was heading egypt, he could ignore the arab streak and the protests against israeli attacks in gaza. morsi can't do that. he's also the head of the muslim brotherhood, and hamas is a branch of muslim brotherhood. this is a very complicating factor. i mean, we should say, though, that i think morsi or anyone else in egypt is looking to start a war with the israelis. they're going to have to much more cognizant of what's going on and responsive to, again, i think a sentiment aamong the arab is that the israeli actions are unjustified. as far as netanyahu is concerned and the upcoming election, look, he's playing to a domestic constituency. every time the israelis go into gaza, they do limited damage to hamas and other limited damage to oth
we have morsi with just basically still the new head of egypt. the muslim brotherhood does not like or respect israel at all. how do these other pieces, these leaders, new leader and leader facing election soon, factor into the whole situation? >> mercy is in a particularly vulnerable situation here. when mubarak was heading egypt, he could ignore the arab streak and the protests against israeli attacks in gaza. morsi can't do that. he's also the head of the muslim brotherhood, and hamas...
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right now there are negotiations taking place in cairo between egypt, egyptian intelligence officials, including senior leaders of the palestinian faction. they are trying to come up with a loose plan. they are still some sticking points whether or not that would be agreed upon but there are positive signs as it has been described by egypt's prime minister in an interview he gave to news agency in cairo. meanwhile, here inside gaza, operations are still ongoing. the israeli air force has carried out dozens of strikes across the gaza strip. palestinian rockets have gone off from gaza into southern israel. there is that incident you referred to yesterday on sunday there was an israeli air strike that targeted one residential building in which 12 people were inside. ten of those from a single family including four children. israel says that house belonged to a leading member of hamas and the campaign over the past several days suggest they are perhaps now targeting the specific homes of some of the leaders in hamas' military wing and political echelon. >> let's turn to stephanie gosk. >>
right now there are negotiations taking place in cairo between egypt, egyptian intelligence officials, including senior leaders of the palestinian faction. they are trying to come up with a loose plan. they are still some sticking points whether or not that would be agreed upon but there are positive signs as it has been described by egypt's prime minister in an interview he gave to news agency in cairo. meanwhile, here inside gaza, operations are still ongoing. the israeli air force has...
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there's egypt, gaza, syria, iran. there's a president's second term that's got to be dominated by this region. >> i think so. it's the middle east, so there's good news and bad news. the good news is that the obama administration did an excellent job of supporting israel all through this. made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad news is the islamists are in control. in the palestinian areas with hamas and certainly in control in egypt. and there's going to be no peace as long as they are there in control, and u.s. policy has got to be a long, gradual process of trying to build up the non-islamists in the arab world, including in iran, across the region. >> that frames it. we'll hear more from you in the roundtable. >>> now let me turn to carl levin, chairman of course of the armed services committee in the senate. senator, to egypt. how concerned are you? is
there's egypt, gaza, syria, iran. there's a president's second term that's got to be dominated by this region. >> i think so. it's the middle east, so there's good news and bad news. the good news is that the obama administration did an excellent job of supporting israel all through this. made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad...
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tension between israel and egypt's new islamist government has increased since the attacks with egypt recalling its ambassador to israel in protest. richard haass, also an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council last night. sift through this for us. how big is this? how significant is this in the middle east right now? >> well, it's big for lots of reasons, because it's not happening in isolation. one is you have the largest military clashes between israel and hamas in, what, four year now, and it's not going to stop. at times it doesn't matter in the middle east exactly why things begin. over the last few months there have been hundreds of rocket attacks, now this, then retaliation. it just happens. second of all, it's happening in the absence of anything political. there's no dialogue going on whatsoever between israelis and palestinians. this can't substitute for this. thirdly, egyptians withdrew their ambassador. since 1967 and really since not long after that when sadat, the relationship has been peaceful. it's been codified by treaty. it is the basis of peace in the middl
tension between israel and egypt's new islamist government has increased since the attacks with egypt recalling its ambassador to israel in protest. richard haass, also an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council last night. sift through this for us. how big is this? how significant is this in the middle east right now? >> well, it's big for lots of reasons, because it's not happening in isolation. one is you have the largest military clashes between israel and hamas in, what, four...
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it's all about a domino effect here in egypt. let's start with the most developing news and that is a cairo court has agreed to hear a lawsuit by 60 lawyers for that decree he issued on thursday. this is precisely the problem morsi says he is facing day in and day out. every time he tries to take a decision, it gets bogged down in a jew dish ary he says is corrupted and full of remnants of the old regime. that's what led him to issue this decree and why his supporters are saying this is good for the revolution. the problem is for a country of 80 million people coming out of 30 years of the mubarak dicta dictatorship, they don't trust anyone telling them, trust me with all the power and that is what is unfolding in egypt. on the one hand you have the exec it tiutive branch, the jud which many people like in egypt, don't believe is independent, hasn't lived up to the reforms. now they say they want to challenge president morsi's decree. that's why we're seeing this again. chuck? >> ayman, back in a familiar place. thanks vep. up ne
it's all about a domino effect here in egypt. let's start with the most developing news and that is a cairo court has agreed to hear a lawsuit by 60 lawyers for that decree he issued on thursday. this is precisely the problem morsi says he is facing day in and day out. every time he tries to take a decision, it gets bogged down in a jew dish ary he says is corrupted and full of remnants of the old regime. that's what led him to issue this decree and why his supporters are saying this is good...
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egypt has sent the top leadership of muslim brotherhood to stand with hamas. turkey will try to broker peace, and there's the u.s. president obama is monitor gt crisis from southeast asia cautioning israel against a full-scale ground invasion like t we saw four years ago. >> israel has every rilt to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory. if that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in gaza, that's preferable. >> we have the situation covered with nbc's stephanie gosk in tel aviv and ambassador mark ginsberg, former u.s. ambassador to morocco who advised president carter on middle east policy. what's the latest? >> reporter: toure, negotiations right now are under way for a cease-fi cease-fire. the israeli cabinet is speaking to discuss possible options. they insist that the rocket fire out of gaza end immediately before they will agree to a cease-fire. on the palestinian side, they want the embargo in place since 2006 dropped, and they want the israelis to stop targeting palestinians. now, over the course of th
egypt has sent the top leadership of muslim brotherhood to stand with hamas. turkey will try to broker peace, and there's the u.s. president obama is monitor gt crisis from southeast asia cautioning israel against a full-scale ground invasion like t we saw four years ago. >> israel has every rilt to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory. if that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in gaza, that's preferable. >> we have the situation...
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on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i can't get quite in their heads. in that part of the world they're aware of the american political calendar, as everyone is, and there is a sort of freezing of decision making in this period leading up to an american election. let's face it, a president romney would have been a very different approach. >> and probably preferred by netanyahu. >> it's seen that way. paezble to that hamas is testing -- had waited to test until now. the truth is that the arab spring has many, many positive qualities for us in the west. the possibility that the people in that part of the world will be connected with their leadership.
on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i...
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and egypt's president morsi is promising action. mideast presidential adviser ambassador dennis ross will join me. democratic women on the hill are firing back on their assault of susan rice. congressman bass will join me about that. chris christie and cory booker gearing up for a battle. is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's cars, nearly indestructible laptops, and the sustainable smart towns of the future. at panasonic, we're driven to make what matters most better. just another way we're engineering a better world for you. some people put everything intotheir name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. >>> hi, everybody. good morning. i'
and egypt's president morsi is promising action. mideast presidential adviser ambassador dennis ross will join me. democratic women on the hill are firing back on their assault of susan rice. congressman bass will join me about that. chris christie and cory booker gearing up for a battle. is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's...
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egypt is a linchpin for trying to achieve some kind of lasting peace in the middle east. when president mahmoud morsi was elected in june, coming out of the muslim brotherhood party, there were a lot of concerns in the u.s. about the direction of egypt as an ally, whether they would be a reliable partner in the kinds of negotiations that we just saw this past week. morsi seems to have walked a very fine line, but so far succeeded. on the one hand he acted as a proxy for hamas in the peace talks with the united states, and on the other hand. he -- egypt and morsi stood by their 30-year peace agreement with israel, and it's a balancing account for president morsi. and president obama praised him for being pragmatic and helping to get this deal done. >> actually, i have to go real quick. but jonathan, you said you were a bit pessimistic about israel and gaza, figuring it out. do you think this is a good start? >> this is actually like a really surprisingly good sign that he would be the -- play this role. just to underscore this, he hasn't named israel -- he hasn't referred
egypt is a linchpin for trying to achieve some kind of lasting peace in the middle east. when president mahmoud morsi was elected in june, coming out of the muslim brotherhood party, there were a lot of concerns in the u.s. about the direction of egypt as an ally, whether they would be a reliable partner in the kinds of negotiations that we just saw this past week. morsi seems to have walked a very fine line, but so far succeeded. on the one hand he acted as a proxy for hamas in the peace talks...
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we understand that as you say egypt has been moo mediating so heavily and there have been ground grounds made and there are also some differences that have not been overcome, and one of the issues that we understand that the israelis want are egyptian guarantees to secure the border off of gaza and off of the coast of gaza to prevent weapons from going in to be used in later conflicts, but at the same time palestinian factions want international confirmation that sanctions will be lifted. so it is not what the two sides are disagreeing about, but it is whether or not the external parties can guarantee the details of the truce. so we are trying to see if they can get on the same page and we have seen over the past the few years when there is a truce or calm, it is shattered a few months or years after it goes into effect, but a glimmer of hope in egypt. >> thank you, live in israel for us. and back to the panel. i want the start with you, dana, on this, and we look at what is happening in gaza and israel and it is described as a political hot potato for the president right now, as he work
we understand that as you say egypt has been moo mediating so heavily and there have been ground grounds made and there are also some differences that have not been overcome, and one of the issues that we understand that the israelis want are egyptian guarantees to secure the border off of gaza and off of the coast of gaza to prevent weapons from going in to be used in later conflicts, but at the same time palestinian factions want international confirmation that sanctions will be lifted. so it...
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, but this time it would be egypt as a repository guarantees. i'm not sure she's there for shuttle diplomacy and i'm not sure she's confident enough that there's going to be an agreement. i think it's almost unimaginable she wouldn't go. everyone else is there. she does have the capacity, i think, to press the israelis to give morsi, if diplomacy is running in the right direction, the political time and space to actually press hamas to stand down and maybe she needs to hear from morsi exactly what the status of these negotiations are and what hamas' requirements are. what she cannot do is put herself in the middle of an incorrect negotiation between israel and hamas, both for political reasons and for any other agendas items that the obama administration may have in mind further down the road. >> aaron david miller, thank you very much. you've been there -- >> thank you. >> you've had to deal with all of these questions. >> always a pleasure. >> many times. >> and imagine a peace corps for doctors. dr. vanessa kerry, the daughter of senator john
, but this time it would be egypt as a repository guarantees. i'm not sure she's there for shuttle diplomacy and i'm not sure she's confident enough that there's going to be an agreement. i think it's almost unimaginable she wouldn't go. everyone else is there. she does have the capacity, i think, to press the israelis to give morsi, if diplomacy is running in the right direction, the political time and space to actually press hamas to stand down and maybe she needs to hear from morsi exactly...
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egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a sunday night showing of the "twilight" move. police say his mother called authorities, afraid that her son had bought two rifles similar to the ones use in the colorado theater shooting. police say lammers admitted to that plan. >>> more on the developing situation in the middle east. could there be a ceasefire in the works, one that would include a guarantee from i that it would l not resume assassinations of high-ranking palestinian leaders and a ceasing of rockets from gaza? earlier on msnbc, the chief spokesman for prime minister netanyahu was skeptical of a truce.
egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a...